OLDMAN wrote:Right here we go bubble burst time – mine as well!!
Apologies if off topic and if Les John, or anyone wants to push this to another thread please feel free
Thought I would drag out a few books especially a treasured one as it was given to me by someone who knew the subject well
It’s called - NEWTOWN, Reading – The Inside Story.......... I think you can guess the subject!
Anyone interested it was compiled and written by Wendy Hobson and published by Newtown Local History Project in 1995
If anyone wants to borrow it for a read as well please feel free to ask
I also check a few other books and old maps
They state that Newtown is the area bounded by – Kings Rd / London Rd to the south – the railway to the north – Forbury Rd to the west and the A4 railway bridge to the east
The first houses were built on the old Orts Farm (Orts Rd area) also known as New Farm – maybe why the name, which was part of Crown Estate and was sold off for the development in the 1830’s and it all began in the 1840/50’s
It was jointly owned and developed by John Sutton and George Palmer for their workers and by the 1870/80’s extended up to Cholmeley Rd, from there across to the railway was Suttons planted areas – this was then developed in the late 1800’s early 1900’s
The bit I missed is where Palmer park is now and up the Wokingham Rd etc came under / between two estates – on one side was Maiden Erleigh owned by Solomon Barnato Joel and the other side was Erleigh Court the rest belonged to the Palmers / Suttons who then built the houses as extras for workers in 1881 This area was known as Earley and also had the parishes of Earley St Peters (which is where i live now but that was dropped in the 70’s when Earley Town became official) and Erleigh St Bartholomew’s (which is roughly where Lady Pi live but was moved down to St Bartholomew’s Rd when thaw a developed in the late 1880’s)
– As far as I know (and I was born in Wokingham Rd and still have family in their 90’s who had family in the area before that)its never been called nor known as Newtown up this was and only a few like myself who called it (and still do) Earley St Peters) – maybe some people who did not live here called it that but it’s never been official nor on a map!
Well that took some studying and I hope it was worth it and useful
daisyanne wrote:Oldman two questions the book on newtown you hold as a bible it wouldn't be the book with a lot of info from certain residents name of spicer/brooker amongst others? Second question would you class all the info given by the residents as factual as to the way people lived in that area.? I would like to be interested in your answer.Though sorry I know I'm off topic. Though your map ref's are correct but the statement on what the locals knew as what was what is a little off. From one very old newtown girl born and bred. sorry john have read the book too but still want the question asked just in case it's a differant book.
Okay now we have a Newtown Thread going
First off it sounds like the same book and no, I do not consider it a ‘bible’ - just ‘treasured’ due to who gave it to me
Yes some of the stuff is a bit ‘wooly’ as it is from people’s memories / experiences and those stories can change but there are also a lot of factual items in the book
According to a family friend who helped on it, is now in her late 70’s, worked at Newtown School and also lived in the area, most of the factual parts of the book was written from information gleaned through libraries / maps etc – it’s the ‘stories’ that came from local residents’
I also said above that some of the information came from other books I have, all about old Reading not just from this book
Over the last few days I have been asking other people who have lived in this general area (RG6 / East Reading) some of whom have families going back to when Newtown was first built and none of them ever knew the area as being other than stated – one person whose family lived at Cemetery Junction (De Beauvoir Rd) since the 1910’s even reckoned that did not come under Newtown plus another woman who lives in St Bartholomew’s Rd who is now in her late 70’s and whose mother (who was 90 when she passed away 10 years ago and had lived there most of her life) had never known that road as being part of Newtown
Hope that helps a bit more and we can get some interesting Newtown stuff on here now – and not just one part of it!